Quote:Also, and maybe this is crazy, but wouldn't the removal of the heavy armor skill drastically reduce the ease of getting stupid high armor values as well?

1. I like that a player is dedicating CP to being more combat effective.
   
2. Mixed armour looks really good and I would hate to see layering removed
   

(01-11-2016, 03:11 PM)Briab Wrote:

Quote:Also, and maybe this is crazy, but wouldn't the removal of the heavy armor skill drastically reduce the ease of getting stupid high armor values as well?

It would certainly help, however I like heavy armour for a couple of reasons.

1. I like that a player is dedicating CP to being more combat effective.
   
2. Mixed armour looks really good and I would hate to see layering removed
   

Quote:Could you not make it simpler and balanced for lower armor characters by doing something like breaching reduces the value of armor to each location by 1. So a 4 point plate armor user, after 2 breaches, is equivalent to someone in studded leather, and at 4 breaches they are at a minimum amount that the rules team thinks is fair. Something like armor can't be breached below X number? (I'm sorry, I'm still a new player so my ideas could be dumb lol)

(01-11-2016, 03:14 PM)Briab Wrote:

Quote:Could you not make it simpler and balanced for lower armor characters by doing something like breaching reduces the value of armor to each location by 1. So a 4 point plate armor user, after 2 breaches, is equivalent to someone in studded leather, and at 4 breaches they are at a minimum amount that the rules team thinks is fair. Something like armor can't be breached below X number? (I'm sorry, I'm still a new player so my ideas could be dumb lol)

I see the idea here and it is very interesting. I especially like the concept of armour being worth at least one point per location regardless of the number of breaches as a sort of minimum armour value. I will have to think on how this might over value leather though.

(01-11-2016, 03:14 PM)Briab Wrote:

Quote:Could you not make it simpler and balanced for lower armor characters by doing something like breaching reduces the value of armor to each location by 1. So a 4 point plate armor user, after 2 breaches, is equivalent to someone in studded leather, and at 4 breaches they are at a minimum amount that the rules team thinks is fair. Something like armor can't be breached below X number? (I'm sorry, I'm still a new player so my ideas could be dumb lol)

I see the idea here and it is very interesting. I especially like the concept of armour being worth at least one point per location regardless of the number of breaches as a sort of minimum armour value. I will have to think on how this might over value leather though.

Quote:Last comment, I promise, again I'm new so maybe to gung-ho with bad ideas. Rather than reduce total value of point plate, chain, and studded leather offer. Why not reduce the number of areas that offer points of armor. Like, throat only, instead of throat and back of neck. Even if you reduce the number of spots by 3 you end up with 25 locations and plate offers a maximum of 100 armor that way. That paired with the removal of heavy armor skill makes being crazy high armored actually impossible. Which I think gives value to lower armor characters even, in that while 10 armor is insignificant, its 10% of the total maximum armor value.

(01-11-2016, 03:18 PM)Sevatar Loken Wrote:

(01-11-2016, 03:14 PM)Briab Wrote:

Quote:Could you not make it simpler and balanced for lower armor characters by doing something like breaching reduces the value of armor to each location by 1. So a 4 point plate armor user, after 2 breaches, is equivalent to someone in studded leather, and at 4 breaches they are at a minimum amount that the rules team thinks is fair. Something like armor can't be breached below X number? (I'm sorry, I'm still a new player so my ideas could be dumb lol)

I see the idea here and it is very interesting. I especially like the concept of armour being worth at least one point per location regardless of the number of breaches as a sort of minimum armour value. I will have to think on how this might over value leather though.

If it were to be implemented, then it would only over value leather in the sense that other things can become as bad as leather, no?
The minimum armor value could also be set as a property of the number of locations covered. IE: 10 locations has minimum 5 armor.

(01-11-2016, 03:24 PM)Briab Wrote:

Quote:Last comment, I promise, again I'm new so maybe to gung-ho with bad ideas. Rather than reduce total value of point plate, chain, and studded leather offer. Why not reduce the number of areas that offer points of armor. Like, throat only, instead of throat and back of neck. Even if you reduce the number of spots by 3 you end up with 25 locations and plate offers a maximum of 100 armor that way. That paired with the removal of heavy armor skill makes being crazy high armored actually impossible. Which I think gives value to lower armor characters even, in that while 10 armor is insignificant, its 10% of the total maximum armor value.

Changing locations is being discussed however it is a very delicate issue because of how armour coverage is evaluated. It is important to remember that changes here can invalidate people's existing armour pieces which are often one of the greatest expenses of this hobby.